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M.S. Olney's avatar

This hits close to home. My country the UK is facing the reality of the true scale and horror of decades of abuse towards working class young girls and women. Pakistani men have/are raping and abusing tens of thousands over decades and those girls were groomed and sold like cattle between the various gangs. Then there's disturbing stories of flights coming into the country and landing at secluded airfields that are suspected of smuggling children into the country to feed to these gangs. How the country has not erupted into wholesale violence over it is beyond me because if that happened to my daughter, sister or nieces I'd burn the whole world down. The whole idiotic narrative pushed by Hollywood and feminists that women can go toe to toe with men in a fight has been immensly damaging. I'm sure there are cases where instead of running a women had the idea she could fight back to disastrous result.

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

I think you’re right. A gun is a woman’s only defense against a man, and most countries keep those away from their citizenry with extreme prejudice

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The Kurgan's avatar

As someone that lived with a gun on him at all times for years at a time, I will say that a woman’s ability with a gun is generally also far inferior to a man’s. Physically, for obvious reasons, but also psychologically. To stay calm under pressure and place two shots centre mass with intent to absolutely end the bad guy is not a naturally occurring way of being for most people, but generally far less so for a woman.

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Christos Raxiotis's avatar

I know women who have taken martial arts lessons. Men coaches emphasize even to the most skilled ones that in a potential confrontation with a man they should abstein. For comparison in weight lifting male record is 3,200kg and female is 800kg. Idk how much hollywood culture of female steven seagals beating up dudes is seen as a realistic possibility by young girls, but it is probably higher than zero.

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azzy's avatar

Brits too. So often approached by white British guys trying to get us to join them at some random location. Painfully obvious what it’s gonna lead to.

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Jason Chastain's avatar

I have a close family member that worked real life SVU for a couple years. Very heavy emotional stuff, every case was life shattering horror stories. She didn’t talk much about them at family gatherings but she did share something once which I never forgot:

Every single victim had that warning voice in their head telling them to get away, to cross the street, etc. Or to run. And these victims confessed they didn’t run because they didn’t want to look stupid, or paranoid, or silly. They didn’t want to think the thin veneer of civilization could be violated against them.

Throughout our whole lives that little voice has warned us of things, and every time we didn’t follow that warning we regretted it. Always listen to that warning, that instinct.

And for the love of Pete, don’t put yourself in stupid places at stupid times. I have always seen scantily clad women out and about by themselves late at night on a weekend as if the world had no wolves in it. And even though I live in a very safe area, I regularly see parents letting their eight or 10-year-old daughters, little blonde girls, walking to Walmart by themselves. It horrifies me as a father. It would only take a van 20 seconds to pull up next to them, yank them both inside, and never be seen again.

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

The concerted effort to socialize girls out of their instincts enrages me most. “Be nice. Be accepting. Don’t be a mean girl.” Getting away from a creep, a third-world savage, or an obvious nut case became “judgmental” and “stereotyping.” Anyone who makes these demands of girls is a predator and should be treated as such

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Riley C. Bolt's avatar

People forgetting or just not realizing that the High Trust Society that Americans used to live in disappeared a long time ago.

Kudos to your family member. It's a rough life, always wading through the worst of humanity. Dunno if she ever worked with Skull Games before, but she has our gratitude regardless. We couldn't help the people we do without working hand-in-hand with the LEOs.

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OGRE's avatar
5dEdited

We're quickly on our way to the second world.

In the second world, the law (still first world) works *for* criminals, and against the first world occupants.

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SomeUserName's avatar

I hate to victim blame, but I am a man and I wouldn't dream of reporting in some of the areas that those women did. How did they think that was going to be OK? As a man, I won't go to some neighborhoods or streets in the city. Why do women think they can? Women think that no men get afraid to walk alone in the dark. That's just not true at all

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

Women from good families and good neighborhoods are especially prone to thinking that because nothing has ever happened before, nothing bad ever will happen in the future. A severe and deadly blind spot that most men, even from the most affluent backgrounds, don't have

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Jane Baker's avatar

And it's part of the White Saviour Complex too. As the rich compassionate Angel who is going to rescue these benighted people from Poverty and Ignorance,of course they love and respect you.

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Riley C. Bolt's avatar

Kristin, you have no idea just how on the nose you are. I've worked missions going after the people who do these things, to this day I volunteer a weekend every quarter to help Skull Games try and track down trafficked women and their traffickers. Its a very ugly world out there, and pretty privilege is simultaneously a big target in most areas of the world outside of The West. Unfortunately, its becoming more and more that way within it too.

Because it's relevant to the topic here, I'll post a very short snippet of my upcoming book if you don't mind.

Katya unfolded the bundle to reveal a set of clothes similar to Anya’s own and a loose, ankle-length robe in faded brown with hijab. Her forehead furrowed as she examined the garments. "A hijab? Won't this make me stand out more? There cannot be many Muslims here."

Anya snorted, the sound almost laughter but lacking humor. "More Muslims than unmarked blondes." She gestured at Katya's face. "You're probably the only one in Saiyaburi who doesn't have a brothel’s tattoo on her neck or thigh."

The words hung in the air between them. Katya's fingers trembled against the fabric as understanding dawned. Any other white women on Saiyaburi were trafficked, branded, and served as merchandise. Owned.

"Oh," she whispered, horrified.

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

The internet and phones everywhere has one silver lining. Though it’s easier for them to find victims, it’s also harder for them to hide what they’re doing

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Riley C. Bolt's avatar

In a way, yes. But it's a Darwinian game. Just like we found with hunting terrorists in the GWOT, the smart ones quickly learn from the downfall of their peers. I won't go into details but I assure you that the smart ones have learned to utilize all of the tricks afforded to them by today's technologies without exposing themselves. The hardest step when I do my volunteering is often trying to identify the trafficker.

What's worse is something you touched on in your article, how most women are trafficked not through violent kidnapping but by people they know. There is a depressingly large number of women that Skull Games has helped, only for them to turn right back around and return to their traffickers, because she's been gaslit into believing that they care about her.

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Jane Baker's avatar

But they increasingly don't need to hide what they are doing because it is approved of by The Secret Elite,I'll have to call them that. We all know they are real and us lucky ones don't know their names. But they actually have an OCCULT duty to tell us. They started off in movies and TV shows,maybe even novels,that's why when COVID first started everyone said ,"it's just like living a movie in real life".

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

I really hope young girls in the future play it safer than they have been doing for the past 20 years. This was an impressively important article, and I think that though I might prefer to write about fiction and also to read about it hereon Substack, this is a must read article. We need to discuss these impulsive reporters and how they're taking unnecessary risks and how though the civilized world wishes to guard them there is a side of this world that hungers to devour pretty young girls and would just as soon destroy them.

I sincerely hope that in the future men protect their daughters, their sisters and their cousins and mothers with all that they have as they once did. Thanks for writing this!

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Jane Baker's avatar

The fact is 40,30 and maybe even 20 years ago but I'm not so sure about that,the law enforcement of all types would have quickly got involved and at often great expense our intrepid girl would get rescued and be the Heroine of the Hour,and though frightened she would probably be unscathed. And get to write inspiring and uplifting features about how her daring intrepidity paid off and lifted her from the old style fate of woman,that of moronic drudgery to the sort of exciting,fast,glamorous life men all lived. Of course. I'm in UK and I know about the Grooming Gangs,well not a lot but I'm aware but I did not know anything about this USA version. It's horrific. And it seems to me that these B

beautiful young women are being taught in school or college or somewhere a world view from 20 years ago. Theyve probably been shown that Jodie Foster film in which as a lawyer she gets justice for a woman who wants drunk and got raped. And they imagine they have the protection of the Good Guys somewhere in the background but they don't. In fact it is them who is a setting up the deals

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

Good points

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Bill Durfy, CD. BA's avatar

You voiced the concern I have daily. My youngest daughter, a pretty, blonde, blue eyed girl is living far away in a Toronto suburb. All of 24 years old I worry about her every day.

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

From what I’ve heard about Toronto, I understand your concern. I hope she takes precautions and stays safe

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Bill Durfy, CD. BA's avatar

She has a good friend group and I have taught her to be “situationally aware”. I’ve taught her how to break a hold if she gets grabbed and to RUN and Scream, not stand and fight. She’s a smart kid, but she’s first in my prayers every night.

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Jane Baker's avatar

All that 'self defence' judo/karate,learn to throw him over your shoulder stuff is dangerous nonsense. In fact I don't think it's offered any more. It was often on my local tv in Britain and it was nonsense. For one what if your assailant also knew judo or karate and at a higher level than you. Plus no way is a tiny woman no matter how clever going to throw a big heavy man. Yes,maybe in a competition setting or in a demonstration when the man is playing along,but on a dark night in a lonely street,No.

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Riley C. Bolt's avatar

I know that Canada is in a bad place when it comes to gun ownership, but what about knives? What do your laws say about carrying a blade? Even a small one? You could recommend she go and learn Pekiti Tirsia Kali, a Filipino martial art that focuses on weapon usage and utilized by most militaries when it comes time to teach the best ways to fight with a knife. There are a couple of schools for it in Toronto apparently.

Edit - Not that I'm advocating for her to stand and fight mind you, your advice to run and scream for help is likely her best option, but for the worst case scenario where she has no choice but to fight in order to flee. A gun would be better, but a blade or even a sturdy blunt object and the knowledge on how to use them are better than bare hands any day.

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Dan Hochberg's avatar

I understand pepper spray is illegal in Canada but maybe your daughter could obtain some and carry it. It's a powerful weapon. It's crazy that governments don't empower people to defend themselves.

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Mr Black Fox's avatar

So easy to protect your daughter so get to it! Encourage her to get married to a good man of faith with a solid frame who goes to church on Sunday (tricky to find in Canada) and must be able to bench press at least 225lbs.

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Carefulrogue's avatar

>Human trafficking exists. At scale. And there is a well-funded, well-protected network of men whose only purpose is to acquire, imprison, addict, control, and ultimately sell women.

Native Americans are a target demographic. I learned of this a number of years ago. The numbers of missing women are staggering, from communities that cannot afford to lose any. They up and disappear and are never seen again, except in very rare circumstances. The doc who informed me of this trend, laid out the addict/control/trafficking pipeline, and... it just makes me angry.

As a policy point, traffickers should be killed if captured. A bright red line.

As to the overall pretty girl problem... lacking parental/mentor guidance ... they either need to study the harshness of reality themselves... or have an encounter with it. And that encounter will be traumatic. That seems to be the only thing that breaks the spell. There was a woman from TYTs, who I believe had an encounter with it, and other commentators picked up on the attitude shift in what she was saying/doing. As one example, among a likely great many who had to learn it the ugly way.

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

Ana Kasperian. I remember that. And how hurt she was when all her pretty girl friends called her a racist for talking about what happened to her. Utterly radicalizing I’m sure

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Barbara Graver's avatar

You make some good points here. I didn't read the boomer post but I am a "boomer" and I think it's worth saying that the rhetoric didn't actually play out well for a lot of us either. We were told we could, and should, do it all too. I even remember thinking once when I was in high school in the 70s, that's fine for ivy league female lawyers but I'm not so sure about the rest of us. But, like most of the women I knew, I did it anyway--career, kids, collapse. If I had it to do over, I might have done it differently. But it was a different time and relying on a man for support wasn't all that attractive either. I understand that your points are more nuanced than that and I appreciate them. Just wanted to share another perspective.

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

My (boomer) mother also experienced that. When she joined the Air Force, they made her an aircraft mechanic despite the fact that she didn’t meet the physical requirement. “We need more women in this job category” she was told. This meant her male colleagues had to do her work for her, and she literally couldn’t do it. But the social engineers never cared about the women hurt by their mandates

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The Brothers Krynn's avatar

They've never cared, they have no regard for nature or for the risks that women are put in.

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Barbara Graver's avatar

No they have not.

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Jim Pitchford's avatar

In my job I actually work with the forms sexual assault nurse examiners/forensic nurse examiners (SANE and FNE) fill out for each exam. For a while one thought that could get to me was remembering that while such violence and violations are outside of my character, the physical capability is there simply because I am a man, and both larger and stronger than the majority of women.

A thought I remember and will apply to various situations is to ask what has someone contributed to the situation they find themselves in? In regards to your article, it can be did you intentionally drink to intoxication or use drugs? Did you not listen to that little voice and stay rather than leave? None of this is to attach blame or shame to the victim, there is none on them in my opinion; that's all reserved for the assailant slime. It is about situational awareness, as other comments have mentioned, and having some appreciation for and influence over your situation. However, a dedicated piece of slime can be very hard to deter; still, don't make it easy for them.

Many years ago, I heard a piece of advice for women: Go to his place, never bring him to yours. It's easier to escape a man's home than to force a man out of yours.

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Jordan Rockwell's avatar

I am reminded of Roger Ebert's review of, "Irreversible."

"While it is true that a woman should be able to dress as she pleases, it is not always wise."

Reality on realty's terms, folks. Sadly, so many of us live in fantasy, only to be mugged, or worse, by reality.

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Vince Mancuso's avatar

“But you, Pretty Girl, have a burden that potato-faced ginger mids don’t:

You are being hunted.” How do you write a line that made me laugh and concerned at the same time?

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

It’s a gift 😊

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Jane Baker's avatar

Trouble is potato faced ones arent left out. It's a huge mistake for any young girl/ woman.to think that ,"well im plain and I dont party but read books so if any male dies show an interest in me it'll be a genuine appreciation of my intellect" BIG MISTAKE. The real fact of LIFE is that even lovely broad minded intellectuals go talk to the smiley girl with blue eyes and big tits,and gradually come to respect and appreciate her take on Kant,Wittgenstein & Hegel.

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Nolen Boe's avatar

Very brilliantly written. I am surprised you didn't bring in something else, the military. When I was active duty air force between 2005 and 2009, I was blown away by a simple statistic. The military has a high than average rape statistic. At my first duty station when I heard that I ignored it, I told myself, "naw, must just be army or marines." Then the few women I worked with started having stories. It wasn't simply that the men they worked with competed against each other for them, but that some "men" simply wouldn't take no for an answer. When I joined, I had an issue, I was an idealist. Which made me delusional, I believed we were all in it together fighting the good fight. After my first year, all I wanted was to finish my enlistment. What I learned was easy, if the women you serve with can not even trust their brothers in arms then how can any woman trust any man? After all wasn't protecting and preserving your sisters in arms not a part of protecting and upholding the constitution we swore to protect? This isn't to say that I didn't serve with some truly outstanding men and women. What I will say is that my daughter will grow up knowing not to trust people so easily and to stay vigilant. No one will protect you like you.

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

The Military was a mixed bag for me, and I doubt it's the same now as it was then. As a young female Marine, my boot camp was single-sex. In combat training, my platoon was single sex but we were watched like hawks so the men kept their distance. Same in MOS training. In the fleet, women had the 4th deck to themselves with a Marine on duty (on account of a rape that happened the year before I got there). I hated it at the time. "We're not children! These are our brothers!" But given the stories I've heard from other female Marines, maybe it was for the best. Also, I never went to combat and had a desk job. That makes a huge difference.

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Nolen Boe's avatar

Yeah, my first base was Germany, and we are allowed to drink at 18. That definitely had a contributing factor, a common story on a Monday was, "I was pretty drunk so I am not really sure if I said no". There were a lot of stories where what happened was fuzzy or down played, and nothing more came of it. It made me sick.

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Jane Baker's avatar

In the British Navy after they introduced mixed sex staff on ships and subs,they now have huge files of cases of sex crime which our Navy has got legally buried in some way so it can be dealt with at some future time but the fact is,and it's in the documents,a lot of the women brought it on themselves. They gave the come on to men in authority over them,and they competed with other women for the attentions of said high status figure. Married women had affairs that often ended the man's marriage. Women seduced men,then turned round and blamed them. No wonder all the men started claiming to be gay.

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steven lightfoot's avatar

This is really excellent, all totally true. I just saw the Netflix doc about Amy Bradley. There is a lot of speculation that this is what happened to her.

Yes Lauren was stupid. And yes the feminist lying for the past two generations is really hurting everyone.

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Jane Baker's avatar

A lot longer than that

Sixty years to my knowledge.

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ALEJANDRO FIND TRUTH's avatar

Can't believe this has to be said.... so true ....

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Brittany Hugoboom's avatar

Fantastic piece!

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

Thank you!

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Dutch's avatar

I have seen too many pretty girls make the same mistakes over and over. They may get away with it 99 out of 100 times, but the one time they don’t can ruin their life.

Take heed.

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