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Nate Winchester's avatar

You're right.

But like... I almost don't blame parents nowadays for failing to discipline their kids when they are one call to CPS away from landing in jail if they do. Like how do you exercise authority over someone if they have a ready "get-out-of-jail-free" card always at hand?

Similarly, aren't men in the same boat with women? Remember the recording from the Depp/Heard trial? "Call for help, who's going to believe you?" Nowadays I don't question why so many men are going trans - I question why so FEW are doing so since it's an immediate trump card you can wave around. Like CS Lewis said in Abolition of Man - "we remove the organ then demand its function. We laugh at honor then are shocked to find traitors in our midst."

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Karen Lynch's avatar

Brilliant quote and brilliant book. Wish his warning had been taken to heart.

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Remington Sloan's avatar

Good points. Message received.

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Elise Betz's avatar

A problem I have, especially with some of the new iterations of feminism it that men are either toxic patriarchy alphas or spineless milquetoast beta cucks. Like personalities, masculinity is a spectrum. In that recent social phenomenon, a lot of women chose the bear. If you're a survivor of S.A., I can understand why, but also seen a video of a couple of men in a fishing boat coming across a couple young women who got swept out to sea and were treading water and close to drowning. It wasn't a bear driving that boat and paws that pulled them up out of the water and covered them in their coats to warm them up. I know, one instance, but there are many others instances like that out there where a strange man helped a woman in need. Not all men are assaulters. But many men will help a fellow human in need.

There needs to be better representation of men in media as they are often portrayed at far ends of the spectrum. Even in school, my son who is now 23, when he was in first and second grade, he was a boy being a boy but they wanted to spiritually castrate him calling him out on stuff that is natural for boys - being full of energy and not wanting to sit like a little zombie for 8 hours straight, not allowed to run during recess or lunch to work off that extra energy. A boy who was being a boy (he was not harassing others or bullying), drawing tanks firing weapons - that he saw on Mythbusters - was being treated like it was a bad thing.

Treating masculinity as if it is toxic will cause some women to think that they don't need a man. Men are not the enemies. The right man will be a life partner, who will be your best friend, the one that has your back and you his, no matter what. There is nothing toxic about having someone who will be there for you when you need help.

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JJ's avatar

The funny thing about the bear is that it’s so obviously false. It’s just misandrist trolling. They’re trying to tell us that a woman, who is likely already afraid of spiders or rats, is gonna prefer to run into a brown bear in the forest rather than some dude on a hike? Yeah right.

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Elise Betz's avatar

Exactly!

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cdh's avatar

[Insert whatever Jordan Peterson throat-clearing is required] I thought Jordan Peterson had good advice when he suggested that the sweet spot between alpha monster and "beta cuck" is being capable of violence without deploying it unless needed. Something like that.

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Elise Betz's avatar

Very true. Men should be capable of violence to defend what is theirs (home, family, the stuff that truly matters), while restraining oneself and using it as a means of last resort. My husband would never lift a finger in initiating violence against another, but he would end anyone who broke into our house who intended our family harm as a means of defense.

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Mark S Griffith's avatar

The surest way to make a woman miserable is to let her have her own way. There is no more unhappy woman than the woman who leads in a relationship with a man.

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A Male Space's avatar

I feel old at 45 years old. Where and when I grew up, the 90’s latchkey-kid era in NYC, violent, rule-breaking (including criminality), flamboyant, loud, and brazen men (that includes scum of the earth) monopolized a fair share of women. Certainly not people I want near my daughter when she starts dating, but far different than the schlemiels you call millstone husbands. Many boomer dads I grew up around could be described as such—air-headed, uninvolved, checked out.

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A Male Space's avatar

Do you mean the overcorrections were lax, permissive parenting (Dr. Spock style) and feminization of men? Much of the feminization has occurred because of fatherless homes and homes with air-headed (millstone, as you call it) dads. Being aware of all this, I believe I have a clear plan for guiding my son. I’ve liked several of your articles so far.

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A Male Space's avatar

Correct. By the way, if you haven’t yet and have strong interest in the subjects we discuss here, I STRONGLY suggest you read The Case for Father Custody by Dr. Daniel Amneus, Who Lost America? and The New Politics of Sex by Dr. Stephen Baskerville, and Sexual Utopia in Power: The Feminist Revolt Against Civilization by F. Roger Devlin.

I also read your article on Pearl, nearly all of which I agreed with. While, like Rollo, I know that some men resent others with a knack Dr fornicating with numerous women. What I don’t like, is that he sees body-count shaming only through the lens of envy and resentment. Female promiscuity has had profound social consequences, including incentivized divorce, broken homes, male violence, and involuntary cuckoldry. Dr. Daniel Amneus called the link between male violence and female promiscuity “Siamese twins”. Even Tupac said, “when b—s get horny, n—s die!”

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Jason the Argonaut's avatar

I watched the movie a week ago after reading your review and it's all spot on. It is viscerally offputting to see someone meandering through life like that, largely because he doesn't care much for his family (note the passive aggression laced into his interactions with his wife).

The third act also highlights how thin the line is between genres. When he ineffectively goes at the villain's friend with a hammer and gets knocked out, this mirrors a common scene in action movies in which a thug rushes the hero to be killed for excitement of the audience. Changing this character from a nameless bad guy to the main character changes the tone completely.

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Gadfly's avatar

Force Majauer and the American remake Downhill also critique the spineless man.

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the long warred's avatar

One of us Kristin Needs a man. It’s not me 🤣🤣

I am one. 🤣

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the long warred's avatar

> And the strong man who defends the woman?

To find out she’s DOOM and she does this over and over? She’s there to drain you? Some drama then either death or prison?

Or the normal American Haus Frau who robs her man of manhood and honor? For a stark example; Again and again Military and Law Enforcement MEN must choose between duty and family- dishonor or divorce.

We can tell the instant the man says “I have responsibilities “ he is useless and untrustworthy.

Not that the civilian sector is different, it’s just less instant in the consequences. That’s why things fall apart slowly. Certainly you can’t fix anything.

Lol.

LOL. Face the world you made, sweethearts.

It couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

And the real men don’t look like that character, they look like the Paragliding crew from Gaza.

You chose this.

You chose against us.

… and now the real closer;

When the women say;

Why did you let us?

…..

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Kristin McTiernan's avatar

Yes, yes wahmen bad. Very insightful

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the long warred's avatar

Sweetie; There’s no Evil Man running amok saying “Why did you let me?”

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That’s you. You’re asking the question; Why did you let us?

Lol.

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Jason Chastain's avatar

Thankfully, I don’t know any weak men like that and wouldn’t want them around me.

My wife hate weak and stupid protagonists so badly, she maybe only give them one pass… And if they do something stupid or weak again she starts rooting for the villain to kill them. It’s super funny.😂😂😂

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Phil's avatar

Always ready with the shaming ey?

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